Allah Praise Be To Allah, the Most Merciful, the Most Beneficent, Lord of the Worlds and Hereafter; the Holy Month of Ramadan is just around the corner.
Let us refrain from reading and talking fitnah, nonsense and garbage not only during the Holy Month but also thereafter such as aggressively promoted by RPK. It’s good that finally RPK’s blog has been censored by the Malaysian authorities. Whoever is responsible for censuring Malaysia Today deserves a pat on the back. For those die hard RPK and DSAI supporters, Malaysia Today remains accessible through its mirror website.
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t was reported in the Star 29/8/08, pg W32, the following;
“Muslims embrace economic globalization as long as it doesn’t mean western influences will snuff out their cultural identity, the head of a US-based and polling group said on Wednesday; Steve Kull, head of the World Pubic Opinion”
I am most certain censuring Malaysia Today is an endorsement of the goal of keeping unhealthy western values out of our rich Malaysian culture.
Thursday, August 28, 2008
Wednesday, August 27, 2008
PERMATANG PAUH – READING BETWEEN THE LINES
A forgone conclusion that came through with a bigger majority to DSAI.
It is not such an insulting humiliation for PM to loose to a proven sodomite.
DSAI won not because the people love him but because he was used by the people particularly the Silent majority to send concertedly a clear message to PM (and his family) that they are a rejected lot. Rumours are rife that many BN particularly UMNO members too voted for PKR or did not have the strength and commitment to go for the polls. GE 12 was a protest vote against PM and so was PP. Whatever pep talk PM had with his branch and divisional heads on being “traitors” as one of the supposedly core reasons for the disastrous GE 12 had come to naught.
While PM’s political future (including arrogant members of his family) is all but dead as far I am concern, the PP results is a blessing in disguise for UMNO. This is just one constituency, not a general election but the indicator for the trend in the next elections. Accepting such reality, UMNO should take the final courage to convince PM to resign soonest rather than see the party heading to the doldrums and potential demise.
Malaysian Malaysia and Ketuanan Rakyat will see PP as a golden victory for their multi-racialism but to many others like me, not necessarily so. However the longer PM stays put and continues to endanger the peaceful and development prospects of the country by his lack of governance and poor management decision making, the more rapid the Pakatan Rakyat will capitalise and expand its influence on the people until BN and UMNO will no longer hold any significant influence.
Demographics could have changed certain aspects of the political landscape in this country but I am certain BN and UMNO could still remain most relevant with certain adaptations albeit a new and firm leadership.
So UMNO, the people has spoken again - they want PM out. Expect to be rejected by the people if you do not reject PM at the forth coming UMNO elections cum year end.
It is not such an insulting humiliation for PM to loose to a proven sodomite.
DSAI won not because the people love him but because he was used by the people particularly the Silent majority to send concertedly a clear message to PM (and his family) that they are a rejected lot. Rumours are rife that many BN particularly UMNO members too voted for PKR or did not have the strength and commitment to go for the polls. GE 12 was a protest vote against PM and so was PP. Whatever pep talk PM had with his branch and divisional heads on being “traitors” as one of the supposedly core reasons for the disastrous GE 12 had come to naught.
While PM’s political future (including arrogant members of his family) is all but dead as far I am concern, the PP results is a blessing in disguise for UMNO. This is just one constituency, not a general election but the indicator for the trend in the next elections. Accepting such reality, UMNO should take the final courage to convince PM to resign soonest rather than see the party heading to the doldrums and potential demise.
Malaysian Malaysia and Ketuanan Rakyat will see PP as a golden victory for their multi-racialism but to many others like me, not necessarily so. However the longer PM stays put and continues to endanger the peaceful and development prospects of the country by his lack of governance and poor management decision making, the more rapid the Pakatan Rakyat will capitalise and expand its influence on the people until BN and UMNO will no longer hold any significant influence.
Demographics could have changed certain aspects of the political landscape in this country but I am certain BN and UMNO could still remain most relevant with certain adaptations albeit a new and firm leadership.
So UMNO, the people has spoken again - they want PM out. Expect to be rejected by the people if you do not reject PM at the forth coming UMNO elections cum year end.
Sunday, August 24, 2008
INVENTING NEW RELIGIOUS RITUALS – RPK A SHAM
1 Desperate RPK?
I am most happy when Muslims quote the ayat Quran and hadith in explaining the wonderful way of life called Islam, even by people like RPK or his champion horse, DSAI who seem to be an icon that can do no sin.
But when people like RPK quotes 2 verses of the Quran (Surah 3. Al ‘Imran, Verse 61 and Surah 24. An-Nur) and an authentic hadith on Aishah in his desperate attempt to put forward his point in advocating the innocence of DSAI and then said in his posting “Trust not these religious people. Many are fakes and phoneys. The Quran says these people will sell their religion for money. This is not what I say. This is what the Quran says. And would the Quran lie?”, my goose pimples rise, my blood boils and wish that we would back in the early days of Islam so that such narrow minded people could answer for their selfish infidelity and evil mindedness. But then again, such indecency and falsehood persistently demonstrated by RPK has been around since time in memorial and going back in time would be meaningless.
2. RPK’s Right of Speech?
RPK heavily relies on the universal human rights declaration (right to free speech) to pacify his ardent supporters to his blog.
An early emphasis on freedom of speech during the Islamic Golden Age was first declared by the Caliph Umar in the 7th century. Later during the Abbasid period, freedom of speech was also declared by al-Hashimi, a cousin of caliph Al-Ma'mun (786–833), in the following letter to a religious opponent.
"Bring forward all the arguments you wish and say whatever you please and speak your mind freely. Now that you are safe and free to say whatever you please appoint some arbitrator who will impartially judge between us and lean only towards the truth and be free from the empery of passion, and that arbitrator shall be Reason, whereby God makes us responsible for our own rewards and punishments. Herein I have dealt justly with you and have given you full security and am ready to accept whatever decision Reason may give for me or against me. For "There is no compulsion in religion" (Qur'an 2:256) and I have only invited you to accept our faith willingly and of your own accord and have pointed out the hideousness of your present belief. Peace be with you and the blessings of God!”
Hence where do we place RPK (and the funders of his blog who think they have religious credentials to do so) in respect of our way of life in resolving contentious issues of critical importance to our UMMAH. RPK is far way off the mark from seeking the truth.
3. The Issue Before Us.
RPK’s latest posting on an SD by Thagarajoo, Nallakaruppan’s one-time driver, under title of “Najib: Muslim by birth, Hindu by practice”, to many is another attempt to discredit Najib and his sumpah laknat about his involvement with Atlantuya.
In the Quran, Muslims have been told be wary about suspect sources of information coming from unbelievers like Thagarajoo and we are all aware of RPK’s blind loyalty (for the greenback?) to DSAI and out right desperation to take down Najib at all cost.
Who is RPK to ask the Muslim masses to discard those who have more authority on matters of our religion and issues pertaining to the UMMAH?
We have to admit that RPK, like many other ordinary Muslims, has no local standi to advance his personal thoughts on religious subject matters and calling those religious people as fakes and phonies, starkly speak most ugly of RPK’s heinous character.
RPK associates himself so closely with DSAI’s political ambitions and personal actions; that rot in RPK is doing more harm than good to DSAI. One also wonders why the PAS leadership and their so call ulamas (whose authority on Islam maybe found lacking in many instances mired with political ambitions and power) are supporting DSAI and RPK. Definitely RPK has not been righteous to the UMMAH in most of his postings and in his writing, he apparently seems least afraid of Allah’s final judgment.
I am sure PAS is most aware what kafir and mengkafir is all about (the more so in RPK’s misuse of SD of unacceptable Islamic characters) and the dangers that DSAI being perceived tool of the US administration. Has PAS been dirtied with money or power in supporting indirectly the disunity among the UMMAH that they dare not speak out on the stark indecencies and unethically Islamic brought out via RPK’s postings and actions especially when Islam and its ethics are concern? Are there those in PAS who support such acts by RPK?
Now observe RPK’s statements extracted from his posting;
“The Quran has warned us about such people. ‘Religious people’ since time immemorial have been exploiting and distorting religion for monetary gain as well as to attain power. Religious people are very dangerous. They know they have the confidence of the majority of the people who are not only simple-minded but place great trust on people perceived as ‘men of God’.This is not only a problem in Islam but in all religions as well. Trust not these religious people. Many are fakes and phoneys. The Quran says these people will sell their religion for money. This is not what I say. This is what the Quran says. And would the Quran lie when the Quran is regarded by Muslims as the word of God?”
I would believe many “religious” people and true aspirants, who regard Islam as the final complete way of life, would shake their head and ask RPK to mengucapkan again; its more than just “the pot calling the kettle black”, what kind of Muslim do we call RPK? And what speaks of DSAI if he does not halt such derogatory actions by RPK?
I am hopeful that the Malay voters in Permatang Pauh would caste their voting based on the best attributes and characters of the candidates and not be fooled by a blasphemous character like RPK. I am also hopeful that PAS members from within and outside the PP community will reflect and do the same in the greater interest of our UMMAH.
Set out below certain short extracts from the internet sufficient to demonstrate that RPK and those people like him care little on the sanctity of the Quran and Islamic jurisprudence, a wonderful realm of knowledge beyond RPK’s comprehension. In Islam, knowledge is action but I am certain by his action, RPK cares not the value of knowledge. Instead, RPK makes a mockery of himself; he is a SHAM of the highest degree.
4. Background of our syaria and interpretations of the Quranic verses
“There is no strictly static set of laws of sharia. Sharia is more of a system of how law ought to serve humanity, a consensus of the unified spirit, based on the Qur'an (the religious text of Islam), hadith (sayings and doings of Muhammad and his companions), Ijma (consensus), Qiyas (reasoning by analogy) and centuries of debate, interpretation and precedent.”
In Malaysia, where most of us Muslims belong to the shafii school:
“In Imami-Shi'i law, the sources of law (usul al-fiqh) are the Qur'an, anecdotes of Muhammad's practices and those of the 12 Imams, and the intellect (aql). The practices called Sharia today, however, also have roots in local customs (al-urf).
“At the heart of Islamic law lies the teachings of God and the acts and sayings of His Prophet, Muhammad;[12] therefore, sharia, Islamic law, is founded on the Qur'an and the Sunnah. However, sharia was not fully developed at the time of Muhammad's death, but rather it evolved around the Muslim community or Ummah through which it would serve”
“However, people do not change overnight nor do their habits of everyday life – sharia was indeed guided through its development by lifestyles of the tribes in which was initially absorbed into Islam.”
“After the death of Muhammad sharia continued to undergo fundamental changes, beginning with the reigns of caliphs Abu Bakr (632-34) and Umar (634-44) in which many decision making matters were brought to the attention of the Prophet's closest comrades for consultation.[17] In AD 662, during the reign of Mu'awiya b. Abu Sufyan, life ceased to be nomadic and undertook an urban transformation which in turn created matters not originally covered by Islamic law.[17] Each and every gain, loss, and turn of Islamic society has played an active role in developing sharia which branches out into fiqh and Qanun respectively.
5. Tafsir or Interpretation of the Quran.
Muslims believe that it is prohibited to perform Qur'anic interpretation using solely one's own opinion. This, they base on an authenticated hadith of Muhammad which states that it is prohibited.
Imam al-Ghazali (qs), how-ever, qualifies this tradition, with the following under-standing, "The truth is that prophetic Traditions (akhbar) and statements of the Prophet's companions and of other pious Muslims in early Islam (athar) prove that for men of understanding there is wide scope in the meanings of the Qur'an. Thus 'Ali (may God be pleased with him!) said, "except that God bestows understanding of the Qur'an upon a man." If there is no meaning other than that which is related [from Ibn 'Abbas and other exegetes] what is that understanding of the Qur'an [which is bestowed upon a man]? The Prophet (may God bless him and greet him) said, "Surely the Qur'an has an outward aspect, an inward aspect, a limit and a prelude." This is also related. by Ibn Mas'ud on his own authority and he is one of the scholars of Qur'anic interpretation. [If there are no meanings of the Qur'an besides the outward ones], what is the meaning of its outward aspect, inward aspect, limit and prelude? 'Ali (may God show regard to his face!) said, "If I so will I can certainly load seventy camels with the exegesis of the Opening Sura of the Book." What then is the meaning of this statement of 'Ali, when the outward exegesis of this sura is extremely short us [and can be set forth in a few pages]? Abu Darda' said, "One cannot [fully] understand the religion until one sees the Qur'an from different perspectives." A certain religious scholar said, "For every Qur'anic verse there are sixty thousand understandings [comprehensible to man]. The understandings of it which remain [incomprehensible to man] are even more than these in number." [1]
The Qur'an, the utmost authority on Islam asserts that the word was sent to all of mankind and it is up to the whole of mankind to receive it and sincerely ponder upon its meaning. Islam acknowledges no "clergy" nor monopolisation of "The Word of Allah (swt) i.e God", Islam only acknowledges the "knowledgeable" ones from among a community of people, the "Ulama" or scholars if they are known and famous for their Islamic correct faith. In the Qur'an, Allah i.e. God exhorts mankind to "think" and "ponder" and "realise" for themselves, thereby awakening true belief inside each and every human being.
[1] The Recitation and Interpretation of the Qur'an: Al-Ghazali's Theory by Muhammad Abul Quasem Univ of Mayala Press, Malaysia, CHAPTER FOUR, UNDERSTANDING THE QUR'AN, AND ITS EXPLANATION BY PERSONAL OPINION WHICH HAS NOT COME DOWN BY TRADITION
I am most happy when Muslims quote the ayat Quran and hadith in explaining the wonderful way of life called Islam, even by people like RPK or his champion horse, DSAI who seem to be an icon that can do no sin.
But when people like RPK quotes 2 verses of the Quran (Surah 3. Al ‘Imran, Verse 61 and Surah 24. An-Nur) and an authentic hadith on Aishah in his desperate attempt to put forward his point in advocating the innocence of DSAI and then said in his posting “Trust not these religious people. Many are fakes and phoneys. The Quran says these people will sell their religion for money. This is not what I say. This is what the Quran says. And would the Quran lie?”, my goose pimples rise, my blood boils and wish that we would back in the early days of Islam so that such narrow minded people could answer for their selfish infidelity and evil mindedness. But then again, such indecency and falsehood persistently demonstrated by RPK has been around since time in memorial and going back in time would be meaningless.
2. RPK’s Right of Speech?
RPK heavily relies on the universal human rights declaration (right to free speech) to pacify his ardent supporters to his blog.
An early emphasis on freedom of speech during the Islamic Golden Age was first declared by the Caliph Umar in the 7th century. Later during the Abbasid period, freedom of speech was also declared by al-Hashimi, a cousin of caliph Al-Ma'mun (786–833), in the following letter to a religious opponent.
"Bring forward all the arguments you wish and say whatever you please and speak your mind freely. Now that you are safe and free to say whatever you please appoint some arbitrator who will impartially judge between us and lean only towards the truth and be free from the empery of passion, and that arbitrator shall be Reason, whereby God makes us responsible for our own rewards and punishments. Herein I have dealt justly with you and have given you full security and am ready to accept whatever decision Reason may give for me or against me. For "There is no compulsion in religion" (Qur'an 2:256) and I have only invited you to accept our faith willingly and of your own accord and have pointed out the hideousness of your present belief. Peace be with you and the blessings of God!”
Hence where do we place RPK (and the funders of his blog who think they have religious credentials to do so) in respect of our way of life in resolving contentious issues of critical importance to our UMMAH. RPK is far way off the mark from seeking the truth.
3. The Issue Before Us.
RPK’s latest posting on an SD by Thagarajoo, Nallakaruppan’s one-time driver, under title of “Najib: Muslim by birth, Hindu by practice”, to many is another attempt to discredit Najib and his sumpah laknat about his involvement with Atlantuya.
In the Quran, Muslims have been told be wary about suspect sources of information coming from unbelievers like Thagarajoo and we are all aware of RPK’s blind loyalty (for the greenback?) to DSAI and out right desperation to take down Najib at all cost.
Who is RPK to ask the Muslim masses to discard those who have more authority on matters of our religion and issues pertaining to the UMMAH?
We have to admit that RPK, like many other ordinary Muslims, has no local standi to advance his personal thoughts on religious subject matters and calling those religious people as fakes and phonies, starkly speak most ugly of RPK’s heinous character.
RPK associates himself so closely with DSAI’s political ambitions and personal actions; that rot in RPK is doing more harm than good to DSAI. One also wonders why the PAS leadership and their so call ulamas (whose authority on Islam maybe found lacking in many instances mired with political ambitions and power) are supporting DSAI and RPK. Definitely RPK has not been righteous to the UMMAH in most of his postings and in his writing, he apparently seems least afraid of Allah’s final judgment.
I am sure PAS is most aware what kafir and mengkafir is all about (the more so in RPK’s misuse of SD of unacceptable Islamic characters) and the dangers that DSAI being perceived tool of the US administration. Has PAS been dirtied with money or power in supporting indirectly the disunity among the UMMAH that they dare not speak out on the stark indecencies and unethically Islamic brought out via RPK’s postings and actions especially when Islam and its ethics are concern? Are there those in PAS who support such acts by RPK?
Now observe RPK’s statements extracted from his posting;
“The Quran has warned us about such people. ‘Religious people’ since time immemorial have been exploiting and distorting religion for monetary gain as well as to attain power. Religious people are very dangerous. They know they have the confidence of the majority of the people who are not only simple-minded but place great trust on people perceived as ‘men of God’.This is not only a problem in Islam but in all religions as well. Trust not these religious people. Many are fakes and phoneys. The Quran says these people will sell their religion for money. This is not what I say. This is what the Quran says. And would the Quran lie when the Quran is regarded by Muslims as the word of God?”
I would believe many “religious” people and true aspirants, who regard Islam as the final complete way of life, would shake their head and ask RPK to mengucapkan again; its more than just “the pot calling the kettle black”, what kind of Muslim do we call RPK? And what speaks of DSAI if he does not halt such derogatory actions by RPK?
I am hopeful that the Malay voters in Permatang Pauh would caste their voting based on the best attributes and characters of the candidates and not be fooled by a blasphemous character like RPK. I am also hopeful that PAS members from within and outside the PP community will reflect and do the same in the greater interest of our UMMAH.
Set out below certain short extracts from the internet sufficient to demonstrate that RPK and those people like him care little on the sanctity of the Quran and Islamic jurisprudence, a wonderful realm of knowledge beyond RPK’s comprehension. In Islam, knowledge is action but I am certain by his action, RPK cares not the value of knowledge. Instead, RPK makes a mockery of himself; he is a SHAM of the highest degree.
4. Background of our syaria and interpretations of the Quranic verses
“There is no strictly static set of laws of sharia. Sharia is more of a system of how law ought to serve humanity, a consensus of the unified spirit, based on the Qur'an (the religious text of Islam), hadith (sayings and doings of Muhammad and his companions), Ijma (consensus), Qiyas (reasoning by analogy) and centuries of debate, interpretation and precedent.”
In Malaysia, where most of us Muslims belong to the shafii school:
“In Imami-Shi'i law, the sources of law (usul al-fiqh) are the Qur'an, anecdotes of Muhammad's practices and those of the 12 Imams, and the intellect (aql). The practices called Sharia today, however, also have roots in local customs (al-urf).
“At the heart of Islamic law lies the teachings of God and the acts and sayings of His Prophet, Muhammad;[12] therefore, sharia, Islamic law, is founded on the Qur'an and the Sunnah. However, sharia was not fully developed at the time of Muhammad's death, but rather it evolved around the Muslim community or Ummah through which it would serve”
“However, people do not change overnight nor do their habits of everyday life – sharia was indeed guided through its development by lifestyles of the tribes in which was initially absorbed into Islam.”
“After the death of Muhammad sharia continued to undergo fundamental changes, beginning with the reigns of caliphs Abu Bakr (632-34) and Umar (634-44) in which many decision making matters were brought to the attention of the Prophet's closest comrades for consultation.[17] In AD 662, during the reign of Mu'awiya b. Abu Sufyan, life ceased to be nomadic and undertook an urban transformation which in turn created matters not originally covered by Islamic law.[17] Each and every gain, loss, and turn of Islamic society has played an active role in developing sharia which branches out into fiqh and Qanun respectively.
5. Tafsir or Interpretation of the Quran.
Muslims believe that it is prohibited to perform Qur'anic interpretation using solely one's own opinion. This, they base on an authenticated hadith of Muhammad which states that it is prohibited.
Imam al-Ghazali (qs), how-ever, qualifies this tradition, with the following under-standing, "The truth is that prophetic Traditions (akhbar) and statements of the Prophet's companions and of other pious Muslims in early Islam (athar) prove that for men of understanding there is wide scope in the meanings of the Qur'an. Thus 'Ali (may God be pleased with him!) said, "except that God bestows understanding of the Qur'an upon a man." If there is no meaning other than that which is related [from Ibn 'Abbas and other exegetes] what is that understanding of the Qur'an [which is bestowed upon a man]? The Prophet (may God bless him and greet him) said, "Surely the Qur'an has an outward aspect, an inward aspect, a limit and a prelude." This is also related. by Ibn Mas'ud on his own authority and he is one of the scholars of Qur'anic interpretation. [If there are no meanings of the Qur'an besides the outward ones], what is the meaning of its outward aspect, inward aspect, limit and prelude? 'Ali (may God show regard to his face!) said, "If I so will I can certainly load seventy camels with the exegesis of the Opening Sura of the Book." What then is the meaning of this statement of 'Ali, when the outward exegesis of this sura is extremely short us [and can be set forth in a few pages]? Abu Darda' said, "One cannot [fully] understand the religion until one sees the Qur'an from different perspectives." A certain religious scholar said, "For every Qur'anic verse there are sixty thousand understandings [comprehensible to man]. The understandings of it which remain [incomprehensible to man] are even more than these in number." [1]
The Qur'an, the utmost authority on Islam asserts that the word was sent to all of mankind and it is up to the whole of mankind to receive it and sincerely ponder upon its meaning. Islam acknowledges no "clergy" nor monopolisation of "The Word of Allah (swt) i.e God", Islam only acknowledges the "knowledgeable" ones from among a community of people, the "Ulama" or scholars if they are known and famous for their Islamic correct faith. In the Qur'an, Allah i.e. God exhorts mankind to "think" and "ponder" and "realise" for themselves, thereby awakening true belief inside each and every human being.
[1] The Recitation and Interpretation of the Qur'an: Al-Ghazali's Theory by Muhammad Abul Quasem Univ of Mayala Press, Malaysia, CHAPTER FOUR, UNDERSTANDING THE QUR'AN, AND ITS EXPLANATION BY PERSONAL OPINION WHICH HAS NOT COME DOWN BY TRADITION
Thursday, August 21, 2008
THE SUMPAH LAKNAT: MY TAKE.
In connection to an article posted by RPK on inventing new religious rituals re sumpah laknat while holding the Quran, I dismissed his selfish and bias arguments. Some of my thoughts on this matter taking into account developments to-date are follows:
While RPK is not an authority on hadith, his reliance of a hadith to prove a point is inconsistent or hypocritical of his persistent usage of hearsay such as in his defamatory statutory declarations. RPK, true like his champion horse DSAI, has been twisting stories and facts with a strong slant towards a forked tongue creating I used to call grandfather’s tales. A hadith is the description on the Prophet’s action and customs by an actual narrative related by a chain of authenticated narrators, the names of those who narrators are clearly mentioned. These were written about 100 years after the death of the Prophet where the source of information was mostly memories of the Faithful. During that time too, there were no technology yet for mass paper printing, video and photography. To avoid the truth being lost or manipulated, the hadiths underwent a systematic and thorough authentication and classified accordingly.
Present day, technology for recording and printing are abundance. In his statutory declarations, holding steadfast to his universal declaration of human rights, RPK refused to give the names of his sources, only saying his source is most reliable. His stories and accusations contained in the declarations have since been refuted by the concern parties making the said statutory declarations dysfunctional and he, a “supposed” bankrupt, is now subject to being sued in the millions for his defamatory statements. But yet RPK would smile as he had successfully caused much confusion and rapture in our political system.
As one prominent blogger puts RPK as “He has a large following proves that people love the stuff he has been dishing out. Raja Petra's strength lies in developing a readable story based on a bit of facts and a lot of opinions (and he's willing to go down defending what he writes)”. When I viewed RPK’s postings and his commentaries, my opinion is “birds of a feather flock together”; his followers re commentaries were mostly those staunch believers of $Malaysian Malaysia’s new DNA and just like him and his champion horse, they love character bashing, preying on rumour mongering and half truths for the quest of a generic Malaysian DNA whilst hungrily degrading certain personalities without any decency and respect.
RPK used a classic hadith to prove a point on adultery (between a man and woman) but could not produce an alternative authentic hadith with specific reference to sodomy. As there is n$one, RPK twisting the facts with the said hadith. Local religious authorities including Ketua Pemuda PAS Selangor have already stated that the circumstances pertaining to adultery are different from sodomy. RPK seemed to reject such religious confirmation and thus again resort to twisting facts to confuse the Rakyat. DSAI also tried to use a foreign “ulama” from Egypt and Gus Dur (the blind Indonesian head of an ulama body who can’t see past his nose) in justifying going to syariah court in dismissing the sodomy 2 case. Is DSAI making a mockery of the Islamic judiciary system to deflect the many request for him to swear in God’s name on the grave sin he has been accused of committing?
Because of the intense commotion caused by RPK in accusing DPM Najib‘s involvement of the Atlantuya case, Najib took a similar oath in denying his accused role. As such, RPK’s image drastically eroded including amongst bloggers except his taksub supporters.
Swearing by the Quran; a Christian ritual? The Mufti of WPKL (the religious authority having jurisdiction where Saiful took his oath) has commented that swearing by holding the Quran which Saiful was not following the Christian ritual. The Mufti of Perlis commented that the swearing by holding a copy of the Quran did not invalidate Saiful’s swearing re sumpah laknat. Certain top officials of PAS would not endorse the sumpah laknat.
As we are all aware, millions of Muslims uses the beads in their religious chanting and wear the skull or ketayab as a headgear; these two are traditions continued from Jewish customs. In January 2007, Keith Ellison the first Muslim to the US Congress took an oath using the Quran instead of a bible. Definitely one would not find any hadith to support such act because during the time of the Prophet, such situation could not arise not merely because USA was non- existence yet but because the spread of Islam had just begun then. However, shouldn’t such act by the Muslim congressman be admired and respected? On 13 Dec 2007, the late PPP chairperson Benazir Bhutto made her party candidates swear on the Quran during the closed-door meeting that after their elections they would not indulge in horse-trading and would give due respect and importance to party workers and refrain from exploiting them.
Islam is definitely not simply about rigorous rituals or Arabic customs but as usual conveniently some people would place more emphasis on the form rather then the substance. What’s funny is that the PAS ulamas and other so-called pro DSAI ulamas are most aware about such matter. The Malays generally practiced several religious rituals and customs, some of which are vigorously and constantly re-innovated such as in dowries, marriage ceremonies, burial headstones and kenduris etc some which are alien or not encouraged by Islam or even declared by some as syirik but these practices, rightfully or wrongfully, have been generally accepted by the Malay population. What is the big fuss about the swearing holding a copy of the Quran when ultimately the sumpah laknat is about one’s noble intention and action; the realm of the Almighty, the Most Knowledgeable.
DNA testing is an accepted new technology in the present day in proving certain associations including for use in criminal cases. This technology was not present during the advent of Islam although I am sure its foundation in the Holy Book can be found via careful diagnosis and interpretations of the Quran and authentic hadiths by expert Islamic theologians. Should Muslims discard using such useful technology? Yet DSAI had quickly dismissed that technology, accusing the relevant institutions of misusing it against his interest i.e. can be falsified. DSAI consistently reverts to the original covenant on adultery in syariah law i.e the presence of 4 witnesses. It should be noted that in Sodomy 1 DSAI and the parties concerned were found to indulge in such activities but the court of federal appeal was not unanimous its decision on the exact time of the crime. The fact remains that DSAI was a sodomite.
The call by many for DSAI to swear the sumpah laknat continues but DSAI continues to deflect such request. The sumpah laknat, although irrelevant to the criminal charge of sodomy in court that carries the maximum penalty of 20 years jail, carries a heavy psychological weight on the integrity of the persons taking the oath in the eyes of many. A Muslim needs to relate and adhere to Allah’s condemnation on sodomy in the Quran and Hadith as per the story of Nabi Lot to justify his/ her perception on sodomites because Allah’s punishment is eternal, presently and the hereafter.
The failure by DSAI to swear the sumpah laknat speaks for himself compounded by the disgustful manner he sought refuge at the Turkish Ambassador’s residence, on his proclaimed fear of assassination, his refusal to undertake a DNA test as requested by the Police to assist in the investigation and the prompting of the Permatang Pauh by-election before he was to be charged and so on and so on (the latest being his declaration that he did not have cronies during his term of office then as Deputy PM/ Finance Minister and Malaysian Government backs Isreal). DSAI’s many deception only enhances the perception that Sodomy 2 had indeed happened; DSAI’s many deceptive ploys blatantly do not represent the actions of the innocence and indeed he looks guiltier by each passing day.
The rakyat watches and DSAI’s hollow character understandably continues to be horribly tarnished. To many Malaysian citizens, the common view holds that DSAI is only concern about his own political well being and not that of the economics of the Rakyat or the country. However such view may not impact the voting at Permatang Pauh because the voters are rightfully depressed with several other issues against the BN particularly incompetence of the leadership; the catalyst of change is absent in UMNO to result in a drastic change to vote for BN.
For DSAI not to swear the sumpah laknat may be understandable in defence of his right (read universal declaration of human rights) and rejection of a respected view of the commons. However I just don’t understand why other Muslims and some so called ulamas (especially those known for their “holier than thou” attitude) are so taksub against this matter and whose actions and commentaries may mislead and confuse innocent Muslims on the supposedly honest and faithful role of those political leaders bearing the banner of Islam on the forefront. Is Allah’s Perfected Religion being abused for the sake of Political Corruption (read RM)? All these kecoh among Muslims and Non-Muslims alike is centred on one single “insan” by the name of DSAI; is he amongst the “small dajjal” or otherwise what kind of destructive “insan” is he?
All Muslims Beware Of This Man Called DSAI and his destructive association with The United States Administration.
While RPK is not an authority on hadith, his reliance of a hadith to prove a point is inconsistent or hypocritical of his persistent usage of hearsay such as in his defamatory statutory declarations. RPK, true like his champion horse DSAI, has been twisting stories and facts with a strong slant towards a forked tongue creating I used to call grandfather’s tales. A hadith is the description on the Prophet’s action and customs by an actual narrative related by a chain of authenticated narrators, the names of those who narrators are clearly mentioned. These were written about 100 years after the death of the Prophet where the source of information was mostly memories of the Faithful. During that time too, there were no technology yet for mass paper printing, video and photography. To avoid the truth being lost or manipulated, the hadiths underwent a systematic and thorough authentication and classified accordingly.
Present day, technology for recording and printing are abundance. In his statutory declarations, holding steadfast to his universal declaration of human rights, RPK refused to give the names of his sources, only saying his source is most reliable. His stories and accusations contained in the declarations have since been refuted by the concern parties making the said statutory declarations dysfunctional and he, a “supposed” bankrupt, is now subject to being sued in the millions for his defamatory statements. But yet RPK would smile as he had successfully caused much confusion and rapture in our political system.
As one prominent blogger puts RPK as “He has a large following proves that people love the stuff he has been dishing out. Raja Petra's strength lies in developing a readable story based on a bit of facts and a lot of opinions (and he's willing to go down defending what he writes)”. When I viewed RPK’s postings and his commentaries, my opinion is “birds of a feather flock together”; his followers re commentaries were mostly those staunch believers of $Malaysian Malaysia’s new DNA and just like him and his champion horse, they love character bashing, preying on rumour mongering and half truths for the quest of a generic Malaysian DNA whilst hungrily degrading certain personalities without any decency and respect.
RPK used a classic hadith to prove a point on adultery (between a man and woman) but could not produce an alternative authentic hadith with specific reference to sodomy. As there is n$one, RPK twisting the facts with the said hadith. Local religious authorities including Ketua Pemuda PAS Selangor have already stated that the circumstances pertaining to adultery are different from sodomy. RPK seemed to reject such religious confirmation and thus again resort to twisting facts to confuse the Rakyat. DSAI also tried to use a foreign “ulama” from Egypt and Gus Dur (the blind Indonesian head of an ulama body who can’t see past his nose) in justifying going to syariah court in dismissing the sodomy 2 case. Is DSAI making a mockery of the Islamic judiciary system to deflect the many request for him to swear in God’s name on the grave sin he has been accused of committing?
Because of the intense commotion caused by RPK in accusing DPM Najib‘s involvement of the Atlantuya case, Najib took a similar oath in denying his accused role. As such, RPK’s image drastically eroded including amongst bloggers except his taksub supporters.
Swearing by the Quran; a Christian ritual? The Mufti of WPKL (the religious authority having jurisdiction where Saiful took his oath) has commented that swearing by holding the Quran which Saiful was not following the Christian ritual. The Mufti of Perlis commented that the swearing by holding a copy of the Quran did not invalidate Saiful’s swearing re sumpah laknat. Certain top officials of PAS would not endorse the sumpah laknat.
As we are all aware, millions of Muslims uses the beads in their religious chanting and wear the skull or ketayab as a headgear; these two are traditions continued from Jewish customs. In January 2007, Keith Ellison the first Muslim to the US Congress took an oath using the Quran instead of a bible. Definitely one would not find any hadith to support such act because during the time of the Prophet, such situation could not arise not merely because USA was non- existence yet but because the spread of Islam had just begun then. However, shouldn’t such act by the Muslim congressman be admired and respected? On 13 Dec 2007, the late PPP chairperson Benazir Bhutto made her party candidates swear on the Quran during the closed-door meeting that after their elections they would not indulge in horse-trading and would give due respect and importance to party workers and refrain from exploiting them.
Islam is definitely not simply about rigorous rituals or Arabic customs but as usual conveniently some people would place more emphasis on the form rather then the substance. What’s funny is that the PAS ulamas and other so-called pro DSAI ulamas are most aware about such matter. The Malays generally practiced several religious rituals and customs, some of which are vigorously and constantly re-innovated such as in dowries, marriage ceremonies, burial headstones and kenduris etc some which are alien or not encouraged by Islam or even declared by some as syirik but these practices, rightfully or wrongfully, have been generally accepted by the Malay population. What is the big fuss about the swearing holding a copy of the Quran when ultimately the sumpah laknat is about one’s noble intention and action; the realm of the Almighty, the Most Knowledgeable.
DNA testing is an accepted new technology in the present day in proving certain associations including for use in criminal cases. This technology was not present during the advent of Islam although I am sure its foundation in the Holy Book can be found via careful diagnosis and interpretations of the Quran and authentic hadiths by expert Islamic theologians. Should Muslims discard using such useful technology? Yet DSAI had quickly dismissed that technology, accusing the relevant institutions of misusing it against his interest i.e. can be falsified. DSAI consistently reverts to the original covenant on adultery in syariah law i.e the presence of 4 witnesses. It should be noted that in Sodomy 1 DSAI and the parties concerned were found to indulge in such activities but the court of federal appeal was not unanimous its decision on the exact time of the crime. The fact remains that DSAI was a sodomite.
The call by many for DSAI to swear the sumpah laknat continues but DSAI continues to deflect such request. The sumpah laknat, although irrelevant to the criminal charge of sodomy in court that carries the maximum penalty of 20 years jail, carries a heavy psychological weight on the integrity of the persons taking the oath in the eyes of many. A Muslim needs to relate and adhere to Allah’s condemnation on sodomy in the Quran and Hadith as per the story of Nabi Lot to justify his/ her perception on sodomites because Allah’s punishment is eternal, presently and the hereafter.
The failure by DSAI to swear the sumpah laknat speaks for himself compounded by the disgustful manner he sought refuge at the Turkish Ambassador’s residence, on his proclaimed fear of assassination, his refusal to undertake a DNA test as requested by the Police to assist in the investigation and the prompting of the Permatang Pauh by-election before he was to be charged and so on and so on (the latest being his declaration that he did not have cronies during his term of office then as Deputy PM/ Finance Minister and Malaysian Government backs Isreal). DSAI’s many deception only enhances the perception that Sodomy 2 had indeed happened; DSAI’s many deceptive ploys blatantly do not represent the actions of the innocence and indeed he looks guiltier by each passing day.
The rakyat watches and DSAI’s hollow character understandably continues to be horribly tarnished. To many Malaysian citizens, the common view holds that DSAI is only concern about his own political well being and not that of the economics of the Rakyat or the country. However such view may not impact the voting at Permatang Pauh because the voters are rightfully depressed with several other issues against the BN particularly incompetence of the leadership; the catalyst of change is absent in UMNO to result in a drastic change to vote for BN.
For DSAI not to swear the sumpah laknat may be understandable in defence of his right (read universal declaration of human rights) and rejection of a respected view of the commons. However I just don’t understand why other Muslims and some so called ulamas (especially those known for their “holier than thou” attitude) are so taksub against this matter and whose actions and commentaries may mislead and confuse innocent Muslims on the supposedly honest and faithful role of those political leaders bearing the banner of Islam on the forefront. Is Allah’s Perfected Religion being abused for the sake of Political Corruption (read RM)? All these kecoh among Muslims and Non-Muslims alike is centred on one single “insan” by the name of DSAI; is he amongst the “small dajjal” or otherwise what kind of destructive “insan” is he?
All Muslims Beware Of This Man Called DSAI and his destructive association with The United States Administration.
Tuesday, August 19, 2008
SIL: YOU OUGHT TO BE ASHAMED
Wow…did you see those pictures of the SIL dressed a female dancer? What a shame, the more so SIL should have kept his mouth shut in Malaysian politics all this while. Otherwise he be like those chickens with their non stop shitting; a new big slut in town and SIL would find DSAI as his lovable buggery partner. Guess the Prince of Darkness prefers a better nick name “the Pondan Prince of Putrajaya”. Kick him out of UMNO Youth; he’s a big, big liability.
DSAI: NAME HIS CRONIES
DSAI have asked the rakyat to name his cronies as he claimed he has none.
To PKR, PAS and Malaysian Malaysia; that’s the real DSAI for you who speaks with a forked tongue and can’t differentiate between truth and falsehood, what more the difference between buggery and cronyism. Funny, what a sinful liar whom Tok Guru, LK Siang etc wishes to be associated with!!!
To PKR, PAS and Malaysian Malaysia; that’s the real DSAI for you who speaks with a forked tongue and can’t differentiate between truth and falsehood, what more the difference between buggery and cronyism. Funny, what a sinful liar whom Tok Guru, LK Siang etc wishes to be associated with!!!
PETROL PRICE AND COST OF LIVING
We all can expect petrol and diesel prices to be cheaper from 1st September 2008 but the prices of other goods which have risen will not fall and so will not our overall cost of living. If PM had been patient and staggered the petrol/ diesel price increases, the impact on our cost of living may not have been that burdensome. Increasing and adjusting salaries will assist the young and income earning to sustain the higher cost of living but not those who have retired especially from the private sector. Also the more elderly who are least marketable will also be adversely affected. These sectors of the population who have limited capabilities in adjusting to a higher cost of living will form a perpetual group of disgruntled voters. Thank you PM, the country could not have appointed a wiser and capable Finance Minister in these challenging times.
PERMATANG PAUH – PM PATUT MELETAK JAWATAN SECEPAT MUNGKIN.
1. Permatang Pauh – amat sedih bagi UMNO. Ini adalah satu pertarungan yang sepatutnya amat mudah sekali bagi UMNO/ BN menang tetapi kerana masaalah kepimpinan, kemenangan memang amat sukar.
2. Pengundi Melayu berpecah dua; satu yang taksub kepada DSAI serta dikelirukan oleh pemimpin PAS yang mengambil kesempatan dan sebelah lagi yang berpihak kepada BN yang juga akan berpecah lagi sekiranya kepimpinannya terus membuat pelbagai kesilapan.
Bagi ahli PAS yang menyokong DSAI, harap mereka sedar sebelum terlambat akan senyuman dan penipuan AL-Setan dan kuncu-kuncu nya yang ingin melihat umat Islam sedunia terus berlaga untuk kepentingan seorang manusia yang bernama DSAI. Kepentingan seorang lagi insan yang disumbat duburnya tidak dipedulikan. Isu sumpah dengan nama Allah / Quran pun dipermainkan – itulah PAS yang mementingkan kuasa politik, lihatlah PAS dengan senangnya mengabaikan pengharaman judi, arak dll setelah berjinak dengan PKR dan DAP; mungkin PAS sedar akan pendirian parti itu yang selama ini tidak praktikal setelah dibuka mata oleh kuasa politik; sedih sekali, mungkin tersesat kut! Saya lebih percaya kepada pendapat Mufti Perlis daripada ulama-ulama PAS di dalam hal sumpah ini kerana beliau tiada berkepentingan politik dan memang iklas.
3. UMNO telah memilih calon yang dianggap terbaik tetapi masih tidak mampu mencabar DSAI. DSAI melaungkan satu kenyataan yang tidak dapat ditepis iaitu kepimpinan BN yang lemah, PM kita yang sentiasa dimaki hamun oleh begitu ramai rakyat. Peralihan kuasa sehingga 2010 yang diumumkan masih tidak direstui oleh kebanyakan pengundi. Saperti keputusan GE12 yang lalu, inilah factor utama yang akan menentukan keputusan pilihanraya kecil Permatang Pauh
4. Isu terbaru Sodomy 2 dan isu-isu kepentingan Melayu yang lain seperti isu ugama forum Bar Council dan UiTM baru-baru ini banyak menghakiskan watak/peribadi/integriti DSAI. Justeru itu, ia boleh membantu mengukuhkan kedudukan calon BN. Sebaliknya, pengundi bukan Melayu dengan dorongan DAP serta human rights groups termasuk PKR akan terpengaruh untuk mengundi DSAI; jelas DSAI tidak dilihat sebagai seorang pejuang Melayu dan ugama.
5. DSAI telah membuat banyak kesilapan baru-baru ini dan beliau mungkin berpendapat pengundi bukan Melayu yang akan menentukan kemenangan beliau.
6. DSAI terus dapat sokongan luar negara dan kali ini kononnya sokongan daripada pihak ulamak Indonesia Gus Dur. Seperti sokongan pentadbiran Amerika Syarikat dan persatuan human rights antarabangsa yang hanya ingin merosakkan ugama Islam, Kerajaan harus terus menegur niat buruk mereka supaya jangan masuk campur tangan di dalam hal negara ini.
Anasir-anasir sesat ini yang memperjuangan pendapat/ pendirian mereka atas asas Universal Human Right Declaration saperti yang dilaungkan RPK patut “dipancong” habis-habisan. Sekiranya tidak, dunia akan menuduh BN sebagai tidak telus melakukan pengundian dan gagal berlaku adil. Ini satu lagi penderhakaan besar DSAI; matlamat beliau hanya mementingkan diri beliau sendiri kerana gila kuasa sehingga sanggup mengadai maruah bangsa, negara dan ugama.
7. Walaupun ramai pundit menjangka DSAI akan menang walaupun tipis tetapi UMNO/ BN patut mengambil kesempatan ini untuk membukti
· bagaimana buruknya perangai peribadi DSAI (termasuk sebagai seorang peliwat seperti yang terbukti di Sodomy 1) dan terbukti dengan pelbagai tipu helah dalam Sodomy 2 termasuk tidak bersumpah laknat.
· tipu helah dan kesilapan ketara beliau (sekarang dan semasa menjadi DPM satu dahulu ( IMF Krisis kewangan 1997) yang tidak mementingkan negara, bangsa dan ugama. Ingat harta negara hampir dirompak oleh perompak bangsa asing dan hak istimewa Melayu juga hampir tergadai.
· Belau merupakan perompak utama negara sebanyak RM3b semasa menjadi DPM. Dengan pelbagai penipuan dan corak politik beliau yang kurang sihat termasuk menggunakan RPK , beliau telah banyak menghura-harakan Negara
· derharka kepada umat Islam melalui pendekatan beliau dengan tokoh-tokoh pentadbiran America Syarikat, sebagai profesor jemputan terhormat di universiti negara itu dan juga sebagai Pengerusi badan UN Foundation of the Future yang dianjorkan dengan berjuta-juta USD dengan matlamat merosakkan penganut umat Islam di Negara-negara Timur Tengah dan Benua Afrika melalui perkembangan program-program reformasi, demokrasi dan liberalisasi ugama Islam. Gus Dur bukanlah ulama negara ini.
Masanya sudah tiba, dalam tempoh singkat ini sebelum pengundi buat keputusan, media utama dan bloggers harus berulangkali dan penuh semangat mencerminkan serta membuktikan dengan terperinci latar belakang DSAI sebagai seorang pemimpin yang tidak boleh dipercayai dan tidak layak menjadi pemimpin negara. Kita tidak harus takut dengan hujah, pendapat dan pendirian bangsat asing yang akan, apa sekalipun terjadi, mengatakan BN telah menggunakan taktik kotor dan tidak telus.
Akhirnya, PM harus bertanggong jawab dengan prestasi BN dan keputusan pilihanraya nanti. PM harus melepas jawatan secepat mungkin, sebaik-baiknya sebelum akhir tahun ini, untuk kepentingan rakyat; lupakanlah sahaja segala kerja yang ingin beliau selesaikan – pengganti beliau bolih meneruskan semuanya.
2. Pengundi Melayu berpecah dua; satu yang taksub kepada DSAI serta dikelirukan oleh pemimpin PAS yang mengambil kesempatan dan sebelah lagi yang berpihak kepada BN yang juga akan berpecah lagi sekiranya kepimpinannya terus membuat pelbagai kesilapan.
Bagi ahli PAS yang menyokong DSAI, harap mereka sedar sebelum terlambat akan senyuman dan penipuan AL-Setan dan kuncu-kuncu nya yang ingin melihat umat Islam sedunia terus berlaga untuk kepentingan seorang manusia yang bernama DSAI. Kepentingan seorang lagi insan yang disumbat duburnya tidak dipedulikan. Isu sumpah dengan nama Allah / Quran pun dipermainkan – itulah PAS yang mementingkan kuasa politik, lihatlah PAS dengan senangnya mengabaikan pengharaman judi, arak dll setelah berjinak dengan PKR dan DAP; mungkin PAS sedar akan pendirian parti itu yang selama ini tidak praktikal setelah dibuka mata oleh kuasa politik; sedih sekali, mungkin tersesat kut! Saya lebih percaya kepada pendapat Mufti Perlis daripada ulama-ulama PAS di dalam hal sumpah ini kerana beliau tiada berkepentingan politik dan memang iklas.
3. UMNO telah memilih calon yang dianggap terbaik tetapi masih tidak mampu mencabar DSAI. DSAI melaungkan satu kenyataan yang tidak dapat ditepis iaitu kepimpinan BN yang lemah, PM kita yang sentiasa dimaki hamun oleh begitu ramai rakyat. Peralihan kuasa sehingga 2010 yang diumumkan masih tidak direstui oleh kebanyakan pengundi. Saperti keputusan GE12 yang lalu, inilah factor utama yang akan menentukan keputusan pilihanraya kecil Permatang Pauh
4. Isu terbaru Sodomy 2 dan isu-isu kepentingan Melayu yang lain seperti isu ugama forum Bar Council dan UiTM baru-baru ini banyak menghakiskan watak/peribadi/integriti DSAI. Justeru itu, ia boleh membantu mengukuhkan kedudukan calon BN. Sebaliknya, pengundi bukan Melayu dengan dorongan DAP serta human rights groups termasuk PKR akan terpengaruh untuk mengundi DSAI; jelas DSAI tidak dilihat sebagai seorang pejuang Melayu dan ugama.
5. DSAI telah membuat banyak kesilapan baru-baru ini dan beliau mungkin berpendapat pengundi bukan Melayu yang akan menentukan kemenangan beliau.
6. DSAI terus dapat sokongan luar negara dan kali ini kononnya sokongan daripada pihak ulamak Indonesia Gus Dur. Seperti sokongan pentadbiran Amerika Syarikat dan persatuan human rights antarabangsa yang hanya ingin merosakkan ugama Islam, Kerajaan harus terus menegur niat buruk mereka supaya jangan masuk campur tangan di dalam hal negara ini.
Anasir-anasir sesat ini yang memperjuangan pendapat/ pendirian mereka atas asas Universal Human Right Declaration saperti yang dilaungkan RPK patut “dipancong” habis-habisan. Sekiranya tidak, dunia akan menuduh BN sebagai tidak telus melakukan pengundian dan gagal berlaku adil. Ini satu lagi penderhakaan besar DSAI; matlamat beliau hanya mementingkan diri beliau sendiri kerana gila kuasa sehingga sanggup mengadai maruah bangsa, negara dan ugama.
7. Walaupun ramai pundit menjangka DSAI akan menang walaupun tipis tetapi UMNO/ BN patut mengambil kesempatan ini untuk membukti
· bagaimana buruknya perangai peribadi DSAI (termasuk sebagai seorang peliwat seperti yang terbukti di Sodomy 1) dan terbukti dengan pelbagai tipu helah dalam Sodomy 2 termasuk tidak bersumpah laknat.
· tipu helah dan kesilapan ketara beliau (sekarang dan semasa menjadi DPM satu dahulu ( IMF Krisis kewangan 1997) yang tidak mementingkan negara, bangsa dan ugama. Ingat harta negara hampir dirompak oleh perompak bangsa asing dan hak istimewa Melayu juga hampir tergadai.
· Belau merupakan perompak utama negara sebanyak RM3b semasa menjadi DPM. Dengan pelbagai penipuan dan corak politik beliau yang kurang sihat termasuk menggunakan RPK , beliau telah banyak menghura-harakan Negara
· derharka kepada umat Islam melalui pendekatan beliau dengan tokoh-tokoh pentadbiran America Syarikat, sebagai profesor jemputan terhormat di universiti negara itu dan juga sebagai Pengerusi badan UN Foundation of the Future yang dianjorkan dengan berjuta-juta USD dengan matlamat merosakkan penganut umat Islam di Negara-negara Timur Tengah dan Benua Afrika melalui perkembangan program-program reformasi, demokrasi dan liberalisasi ugama Islam. Gus Dur bukanlah ulama negara ini.
Masanya sudah tiba, dalam tempoh singkat ini sebelum pengundi buat keputusan, media utama dan bloggers harus berulangkali dan penuh semangat mencerminkan serta membuktikan dengan terperinci latar belakang DSAI sebagai seorang pemimpin yang tidak boleh dipercayai dan tidak layak menjadi pemimpin negara. Kita tidak harus takut dengan hujah, pendapat dan pendirian bangsat asing yang akan, apa sekalipun terjadi, mengatakan BN telah menggunakan taktik kotor dan tidak telus.
Akhirnya, PM harus bertanggong jawab dengan prestasi BN dan keputusan pilihanraya nanti. PM harus melepas jawatan secepat mungkin, sebaik-baiknya sebelum akhir tahun ini, untuk kepentingan rakyat; lupakanlah sahaja segala kerja yang ingin beliau selesaikan – pengganti beliau bolih meneruskan semuanya.
Wednesday, August 13, 2008
AN APPEAL & REMINDER TO MUSLIMS: REJECT PRK & DSAI MISUSE OF THE UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS; ITS PLAIN DEBAUCHERY
The Universal Declaration of Human Rights states as follows:
“Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association”
I have much disgust the majority of human rights promoters in this country for being irresponsible and deceitful in causing much distress, chaos and hardship to this beloved country of ours;
1 DAP – the Chinese chauvinist party with its Malaysian Malaysia concept; everybody in Malaysia enjoys the same equitable rights. The Malays have rejected and will continue to reject such wishful ideals which rejected the existing Social .Contract and Rule of Law.
2 PKR – the supposedly multi racial party with Ketuanan Rakyat as its slogan. Although most of the Gurka members maybe Malays, the party has a substantial number of Non-Malays (yanadays/ Indians who are lawyers) at its leadership. Like the Malaysian Malaysia concept, the PKR will be rejected by the Malays eventually. The PKR have benefited from the protest votes against the weakling and corrupted PM, not due to PKR’s own merits. With his RM3B and his close association with the US administration, DSAI seemed to have been able to coy his followers. To many, DSAI does not have the leadership character to lead the country; he’s good at talking silly. As he rejected Ketuanan Melayu, he is being used as an icon by the certain Malays to put pressure on PM to resign soonest. PAS has already indicated the rejection of any efforts which will curtail and adversely affect the special rights of the Malaya and of their Religion i.e Islam. I fail to see any future in the Pakatan.
3 The Bar Council (mostly represented by vocal yanadays/ Indians) - and the other human rights groups including certain individual Malays like RPK or who are western/ American trained social/ political scientists who have little respect for the Social Contract and Rule of Law. They look towards the US and UN declaration of human rights as the source of inspiration to remedy what they believe as hindrances to the country’s efficient economic productivity and efficiency in meeting the global challenges i.e the formation of the Malaysian DNA, no Melayu, Chinese or Indians etc.
The Prophet (PUBH)’s last sermon
How then do Muslims conduct their way of life under this period of uncertainty and tribulations where there is so much falsehood, deceit, temptations i.e. the world being up side down? Nay, do not be hypocrites as misled by the Satan; seek guidance from the appropriate channels.
The Universal Declaration of Human Rights as stated earlier has a lot of ingredients missing therefore making the declaration most faulty and has become a debauchery for vested and selfish entities particularly the US administration. As an ordinary Muslim, I hold fast to the Prophet (PUBH)’s farewell speech at Mount Arafat as my guidance, instead of the human rights declaration, which I sincerely believe other Muslims will do so too.
Malaysia’s Precedence
We Malaysians live by rules and conduct acceptable to each other; we respect each others religions and not interfere. We have a social contract which our founders readily accepted and we have live fairly peaceful and with prosperity for the past 50 years.
US Unjustified Interferences, actions – what UN human rights declaration?
Why is RPK insistence that the US has the right to intervene in Malaysia’s internal affairs with regard to DSAI sodomy 2 investigations? The US has misused and misguided the human rights declaration for their selfish agenda, over and over again causing much mayhem and plundering. It is frightening that people like RPK and DSAI rely heavily on the US as the world’s biggest economy for their selfish sustenance. If you disagree about US and their associates’ hands are perpetually dirty in misusing human rights declaration, see some of the issues summarised below:
i) The Iraq War – Global influential mass media were utilised to influence the governments of the world and the US public to support the conquest of Iraq under the pretext of removing weapons of mass destruction. Thus the biggest joke of the century when we all know the real objective of the war was to secure the enormous oil resources of Iraq etc. Look at the devastation and loss of innocent lives in Iraq after 4 years of invasion and the toll keeps rising.
ii) Britain, the US main alley in the Iraq war– Tony Blair’s spinning in justification for Britain support for the Iraq war. I would believe that DSAI who has the gift of the gap (double forked tongue) is our equivalent of Tony Blair, a war criminal to many.
iii) The Guatanamo Bay prison camp (Gitmo) and Abu Ghaib prison – what type of human rights exists in these atrocious camps; another big shame/ sham of the US administration?
iv) The continuing internment/ rendition of Muslims within the context of the US global war against terror (read Islam); human rights ke?
v) Afghanistan – what happen there, all in the interest of oil?
vi) Pakistan – consistent interference in the internal security of Pakistan/ Afghanistan?
vii) Presently Geogia conflict with Russia – any US Administration interference re Oil again? Never judge the book by its cover.
There could be a thousand more examples I could relate which demonstrated how the US administration hypocritical actions though mass disinformation making the human rights declaration meaningless.
Now looking at how RPK warrants the use of such universal freedom in producing half truths by hearsay and make up stories in his statutory declarations and postings, we can only suspect the reasons for RPK supporting US interference in our internal affairs. Gosh, what are the US Administration plans for Malaysia under DSAI, I am so horrified of such thoughts. Thus for those who dislike or disapprove RPK’s brash and false methodology in his undivided support of DSAI, there’s no reason to endorse RPK’s boss ie DSAI.
So my fellow Muslim brothers and sisters, if need be think carefully and then cast away your support against the US Administration, DSAI and RPK who have made a debauchery in capitalising on the good intentions of the UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS for their selfish interests. Refer to the Prophet (PUBH)’s Last Sermon; that’s our complete way of Life and hold steadfast.
Prophet Muhammad's (PUBH) Last Sermon
[This sermon was delivered on the Ninth Day of Dhul-Hijjah 10 A.H. in the 'Uranah valley of Mount Arafat' in Mecca.] – extracted from http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/prophet/lastsermon.html
In the Name of Allah, the Most Compassionate, the Most Merciful
After praising and thanking Allah the Prophet (saws) said:
"O People, lend me an attentive ear, for I know not whether after this year I shall ever be amongst you again. Therefore listen to what I am saying very carefully and take these words to those who could not be present here today.
O People, just as you regard this month, this day, this city as Sacred, so regard the life and property of every Muslim as a sacred trust. Return the goods entrusted to you to their rightful owners. Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that you will indeed meet your Lord, and that he will indeed reckon your deeds. Allah has forbidden you to take usury (interest), therefore all interest obligations shall henceforth be waived. Your capital is yours to keep. You will neither inflict nor suffer any inequity. Allah has judged that there shall be no interest and that all the interest due to Abbas ibn 'Abd'al Muttalib [the Prophet's uncle] be waived.
Every right arising out of homicide in pre-Islamic days is henceforth waived and the first such right that I waive is that arising from the murder of Rabiah ibn al Harithibn.
O People, the unbelievers indulge in tampering with the calendar in order to make permissible that which Allah forbade, and to forbid that which Allah has made permissible. With Allah the months are twelve in number. Four of them are holy, three of these are successive and one occurs singly between the months of Jumada and Shaban.
Beware of Satan, for the safety of your religion. He has lost all hope of that he will be able to lead you astray in big things, so beware of following him in small things.
O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have taken them as your wives only under Allah's trust and with His permission. If they abide by your right, then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and committed helpers. And it is your right that they do not make friends with anyone of whom you do not approve, as well as never to be unchaste.
O People, listen to me in earnest, worship Allah, say your five daily prayers, fast during the month of Ramadhan, and give your wealth in Zakat. Perform Hajj if you can afford to.
All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over a black nor does a black have any superiority over a white - except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not therefore do injustice to yourselves. Remember one day you will meet Allah and answer your deeds. So beware: do not stray from the path of righteousness after I am gone.
O People, no prophet or apostle will come after me, and no new faith will be born. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand my words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the Qur'an and my Sunnah and if you follow these you will never go astray.
All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than those who listen to me directly. Be my witness, O Allah, that I have conveyed Your message to Your people."
My Note: A practicing Muslim should be able to understand, appreciate and endorse the gist of the last Sermon; there’s nothing to be misinterpreted. Non-Muslims however may not figure out what the gist is and so they may likely misinterpret for their own convenience and selfish interests!
“Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association”
I have much disgust the majority of human rights promoters in this country for being irresponsible and deceitful in causing much distress, chaos and hardship to this beloved country of ours;
1 DAP – the Chinese chauvinist party with its Malaysian Malaysia concept; everybody in Malaysia enjoys the same equitable rights. The Malays have rejected and will continue to reject such wishful ideals which rejected the existing Social .Contract and Rule of Law.
2 PKR – the supposedly multi racial party with Ketuanan Rakyat as its slogan. Although most of the Gurka members maybe Malays, the party has a substantial number of Non-Malays (yanadays/ Indians who are lawyers) at its leadership. Like the Malaysian Malaysia concept, the PKR will be rejected by the Malays eventually. The PKR have benefited from the protest votes against the weakling and corrupted PM, not due to PKR’s own merits. With his RM3B and his close association with the US administration, DSAI seemed to have been able to coy his followers. To many, DSAI does not have the leadership character to lead the country; he’s good at talking silly. As he rejected Ketuanan Melayu, he is being used as an icon by the certain Malays to put pressure on PM to resign soonest. PAS has already indicated the rejection of any efforts which will curtail and adversely affect the special rights of the Malaya and of their Religion i.e Islam. I fail to see any future in the Pakatan.
3 The Bar Council (mostly represented by vocal yanadays/ Indians) - and the other human rights groups including certain individual Malays like RPK or who are western/ American trained social/ political scientists who have little respect for the Social Contract and Rule of Law. They look towards the US and UN declaration of human rights as the source of inspiration to remedy what they believe as hindrances to the country’s efficient economic productivity and efficiency in meeting the global challenges i.e the formation of the Malaysian DNA, no Melayu, Chinese or Indians etc.
The Prophet (PUBH)’s last sermon
How then do Muslims conduct their way of life under this period of uncertainty and tribulations where there is so much falsehood, deceit, temptations i.e. the world being up side down? Nay, do not be hypocrites as misled by the Satan; seek guidance from the appropriate channels.
The Universal Declaration of Human Rights as stated earlier has a lot of ingredients missing therefore making the declaration most faulty and has become a debauchery for vested and selfish entities particularly the US administration. As an ordinary Muslim, I hold fast to the Prophet (PUBH)’s farewell speech at Mount Arafat as my guidance, instead of the human rights declaration, which I sincerely believe other Muslims will do so too.
Malaysia’s Precedence
We Malaysians live by rules and conduct acceptable to each other; we respect each others religions and not interfere. We have a social contract which our founders readily accepted and we have live fairly peaceful and with prosperity for the past 50 years.
US Unjustified Interferences, actions – what UN human rights declaration?
Why is RPK insistence that the US has the right to intervene in Malaysia’s internal affairs with regard to DSAI sodomy 2 investigations? The US has misused and misguided the human rights declaration for their selfish agenda, over and over again causing much mayhem and plundering. It is frightening that people like RPK and DSAI rely heavily on the US as the world’s biggest economy for their selfish sustenance. If you disagree about US and their associates’ hands are perpetually dirty in misusing human rights declaration, see some of the issues summarised below:
i) The Iraq War – Global influential mass media were utilised to influence the governments of the world and the US public to support the conquest of Iraq under the pretext of removing weapons of mass destruction. Thus the biggest joke of the century when we all know the real objective of the war was to secure the enormous oil resources of Iraq etc. Look at the devastation and loss of innocent lives in Iraq after 4 years of invasion and the toll keeps rising.
ii) Britain, the US main alley in the Iraq war– Tony Blair’s spinning in justification for Britain support for the Iraq war. I would believe that DSAI who has the gift of the gap (double forked tongue) is our equivalent of Tony Blair, a war criminal to many.
iii) The Guatanamo Bay prison camp (Gitmo) and Abu Ghaib prison – what type of human rights exists in these atrocious camps; another big shame/ sham of the US administration?
iv) The continuing internment/ rendition of Muslims within the context of the US global war against terror (read Islam); human rights ke?
v) Afghanistan – what happen there, all in the interest of oil?
vi) Pakistan – consistent interference in the internal security of Pakistan/ Afghanistan?
vii) Presently Geogia conflict with Russia – any US Administration interference re Oil again? Never judge the book by its cover.
There could be a thousand more examples I could relate which demonstrated how the US administration hypocritical actions though mass disinformation making the human rights declaration meaningless.
Now looking at how RPK warrants the use of such universal freedom in producing half truths by hearsay and make up stories in his statutory declarations and postings, we can only suspect the reasons for RPK supporting US interference in our internal affairs. Gosh, what are the US Administration plans for Malaysia under DSAI, I am so horrified of such thoughts. Thus for those who dislike or disapprove RPK’s brash and false methodology in his undivided support of DSAI, there’s no reason to endorse RPK’s boss ie DSAI.
So my fellow Muslim brothers and sisters, if need be think carefully and then cast away your support against the US Administration, DSAI and RPK who have made a debauchery in capitalising on the good intentions of the UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS for their selfish interests. Refer to the Prophet (PUBH)’s Last Sermon; that’s our complete way of Life and hold steadfast.
Prophet Muhammad's (PUBH) Last Sermon
[This sermon was delivered on the Ninth Day of Dhul-Hijjah 10 A.H. in the 'Uranah valley of Mount Arafat' in Mecca.] – extracted from http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/prophet/lastsermon.html
In the Name of Allah, the Most Compassionate, the Most Merciful
After praising and thanking Allah the Prophet (saws) said:
"O People, lend me an attentive ear, for I know not whether after this year I shall ever be amongst you again. Therefore listen to what I am saying very carefully and take these words to those who could not be present here today.
O People, just as you regard this month, this day, this city as Sacred, so regard the life and property of every Muslim as a sacred trust. Return the goods entrusted to you to their rightful owners. Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that you will indeed meet your Lord, and that he will indeed reckon your deeds. Allah has forbidden you to take usury (interest), therefore all interest obligations shall henceforth be waived. Your capital is yours to keep. You will neither inflict nor suffer any inequity. Allah has judged that there shall be no interest and that all the interest due to Abbas ibn 'Abd'al Muttalib [the Prophet's uncle] be waived.
Every right arising out of homicide in pre-Islamic days is henceforth waived and the first such right that I waive is that arising from the murder of Rabiah ibn al Harithibn.
O People, the unbelievers indulge in tampering with the calendar in order to make permissible that which Allah forbade, and to forbid that which Allah has made permissible. With Allah the months are twelve in number. Four of them are holy, three of these are successive and one occurs singly between the months of Jumada and Shaban.
Beware of Satan, for the safety of your religion. He has lost all hope of that he will be able to lead you astray in big things, so beware of following him in small things.
O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have taken them as your wives only under Allah's trust and with His permission. If they abide by your right, then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and committed helpers. And it is your right that they do not make friends with anyone of whom you do not approve, as well as never to be unchaste.
O People, listen to me in earnest, worship Allah, say your five daily prayers, fast during the month of Ramadhan, and give your wealth in Zakat. Perform Hajj if you can afford to.
All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over a black nor does a black have any superiority over a white - except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not therefore do injustice to yourselves. Remember one day you will meet Allah and answer your deeds. So beware: do not stray from the path of righteousness after I am gone.
O People, no prophet or apostle will come after me, and no new faith will be born. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand my words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the Qur'an and my Sunnah and if you follow these you will never go astray.
All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than those who listen to me directly. Be my witness, O Allah, that I have conveyed Your message to Your people."
My Note: A practicing Muslim should be able to understand, appreciate and endorse the gist of the last Sermon; there’s nothing to be misinterpreted. Non-Muslims however may not figure out what the gist is and so they may likely misinterpret for their own convenience and selfish interests!
THE HERALD: FREEZE THE LISENCE AND BE DONE WITH IT.
I understand the Universal Declaration of Human Rights states as follows:
“Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association”
That’s where Suhakam comes from and has voiced its grave concern about the Home Ministry withdrawing the Herald’s license because of the editor’s write up on the Permatang Pauh by election; supposedly Suhakam believes the Herald has every right to do so.
I disagree with Suhakam and the other human rights organisations which support the Herald’s recent publication. There is presently too much confusion, musings, frustrations, anxiety etc perpetuated from sensitive communal issues in connection with the Social Contract, the word Allah, Malay Rights and Islamic Issues etc. The court case surrounding the word Allah is being intervened by 8 State Religious Council and yet to be resolved. The Sultans have come out informing the Rakyat not to dwell into sensitive religious issues. Overall, irrespective whether there is any truth, the Muslims are obviously suspicious of certain Non-Muslim groups seen presently attempting to interfere into the affairs of the Muslim religion and race, adversely affecting the status quo.
The Catholic Church, as a religious institution, should be aware of all these sensitiveness. As the Herald is a religious publication, the institution should rightfully focus on Christianity issues rather than dwell on that particular politically sensitive by election of Permatang Pauh. What is so important on this particular political write up compared to the religious messages the Gerald would normally propagate if the publication is jammed? It would be the solemn duty of any religious institution not to entangle in political issues especially so in light of ita ongoing case in court. For sure, even if the regulatory authorities have misread its intention of the “innocent” political write up, blowing up the issue would not be to the interest of fellow Christians.
But if the Catholic Church still insists on its rights to publicise such issue, then for the best interest of the greater community, I would say “Free the License and be done with it”.
“Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association”
That’s where Suhakam comes from and has voiced its grave concern about the Home Ministry withdrawing the Herald’s license because of the editor’s write up on the Permatang Pauh by election; supposedly Suhakam believes the Herald has every right to do so.
I disagree with Suhakam and the other human rights organisations which support the Herald’s recent publication. There is presently too much confusion, musings, frustrations, anxiety etc perpetuated from sensitive communal issues in connection with the Social Contract, the word Allah, Malay Rights and Islamic Issues etc. The court case surrounding the word Allah is being intervened by 8 State Religious Council and yet to be resolved. The Sultans have come out informing the Rakyat not to dwell into sensitive religious issues. Overall, irrespective whether there is any truth, the Muslims are obviously suspicious of certain Non-Muslim groups seen presently attempting to interfere into the affairs of the Muslim religion and race, adversely affecting the status quo.
The Catholic Church, as a religious institution, should be aware of all these sensitiveness. As the Herald is a religious publication, the institution should rightfully focus on Christianity issues rather than dwell on that particular politically sensitive by election of Permatang Pauh. What is so important on this particular political write up compared to the religious messages the Gerald would normally propagate if the publication is jammed? It would be the solemn duty of any religious institution not to entangle in political issues especially so in light of ita ongoing case in court. For sure, even if the regulatory authorities have misread its intention of the “innocent” political write up, blowing up the issue would not be to the interest of fellow Christians.
But if the Catholic Church still insists on its rights to publicise such issue, then for the best interest of the greater community, I would say “Free the License and be done with it”.
Tuesday, August 12, 2008
WILL MUSLIMS NOT REJECT THE BAR COUNCIL’S FORUM?
WILL MUSLIMS NOT REJECT THE BAR COUNCIL’S FORUM?
There are desperate non-Muslims who still cannot accept the fact that the Muslim protest at the Bar Council’s forum on last Saturday was representative of the majority of the Muslims.
These specific non-Muslims have a specific agenda – to promote Malaysian Malaysia where every Malaysian citizen from the various races and religion are equal in all respects and therefore they disagree on racial based politics. Seeking to create more chaos, these non-Muslims dream that moderate non Muslims should fight back for them because their voices were muzzled.
These non-Muslim views are most irresponsible, are up to nothing but to galvanise false hopes with full of deception and lies, further radicalise society with such sensitive issues. Yes there could be some Muslims who support the forum but definitely do not represent the bulk of the Muslims or so-called moderate Muslims in this country called Malaysia.
Any call by Muslims to support such forums should not be originated by Non-Muslims for the basic reasons that these Non-Muslims do not understand Islam, do not practice Islam thus why they should have such irresponsible thoughts on sensitive issues concerning Muslims? The ulterior motive of these specific non-Muslims having such thoughts speaks for them.
Islam has been brought down as a “way of life” to Muslims for all occasions and times. The perception that the political situation have changed since the past 10 years or since 8 March 2008 is a gross misnomer in respect of the Malay race and their religion. The perceptions that the “moderates will fight back” is irresponsible and can be viewed as an intention to divide Muslims. Who are these so called Muslim moderates? How does one classify them, on the basis of tolerance to other religions? For years, to the general Muslims, they have been most tolerant with the other religions; Muslims don’t interfere in the religions of others. Are moderates considered like Zaid Ibrahim; his balls are locked up for his insolence. Maybe PM - I think by now PM would know better how far his reforms and tolerances have been rejected. DSAI, those of Malaysian Malaysia must be kidding to take this chameleon as their “lord”. Azmin, Wan Azizah- they would be rejected if they do so!
Muslims go to the mosque for prayers every Friday, for special prayers during the fasting months and other special occasions. The Muslims follow and adhere to the prayers and advice of the specially appointed imans during these prayers. Muslims also listen to the special religious programs on TV where there is authorised representation I am sure no authoritative on Islam would dare speak on this special call by non-Muslims without being spite on. For one, most Muslims are aware of the dangers brought forward by western trained or propagated “Islamist’ scholars for their more liberal or tolerant views; these scholars are perceived as agents or bought out by the CIA or US administration who have caused a lot of havoc to the Muslim world including aggravating the disunity among the Muslims. To the Muslims, history has shown that the greatest danger to the Muslims comes from the hypocrites and they are well exemplified in the Quran. So these type of Muslims will be rejected by the others, the bulk whose voices are supposed to be muzzled.
To these Non-Muslims who think they have the authority to decide or deliberate on Islamic perceptions, my advice is to stop. The more these sensitive issues are pressed on, the more volatile and dangerous the situation becomes.
Please be aware, at the last Friday sermon at the mosque I attended to, the Iman called upon the congregation to be aware on the dangers lurking from such forums and other recent actions against the interest of Muslims. What would have happened if the Iman had called the congregation to demonstrate their anger against such insolence? Call the Police for help under the rights of our constitution? Nay, people like Ambiga, Mehrun and of cause LKS and Kapal Singh now want to push the fault back to the protesters although the warnings and signs have been very clear!! Bloody irresponsible cowards, aren’t they, hiding behind the United Nations’ Universal Declaration of Human Rights, just like RPK in creating his havoc?
So for those who wish that moderate Muslims come forth, please do not try to divide the Muslims, there could be serious backlash.
There are desperate non-Muslims who still cannot accept the fact that the Muslim protest at the Bar Council’s forum on last Saturday was representative of the majority of the Muslims.
These specific non-Muslims have a specific agenda – to promote Malaysian Malaysia where every Malaysian citizen from the various races and religion are equal in all respects and therefore they disagree on racial based politics. Seeking to create more chaos, these non-Muslims dream that moderate non Muslims should fight back for them because their voices were muzzled.
These non-Muslim views are most irresponsible, are up to nothing but to galvanise false hopes with full of deception and lies, further radicalise society with such sensitive issues. Yes there could be some Muslims who support the forum but definitely do not represent the bulk of the Muslims or so-called moderate Muslims in this country called Malaysia.
Any call by Muslims to support such forums should not be originated by Non-Muslims for the basic reasons that these Non-Muslims do not understand Islam, do not practice Islam thus why they should have such irresponsible thoughts on sensitive issues concerning Muslims? The ulterior motive of these specific non-Muslims having such thoughts speaks for them.
Islam has been brought down as a “way of life” to Muslims for all occasions and times. The perception that the political situation have changed since the past 10 years or since 8 March 2008 is a gross misnomer in respect of the Malay race and their religion. The perceptions that the “moderates will fight back” is irresponsible and can be viewed as an intention to divide Muslims. Who are these so called Muslim moderates? How does one classify them, on the basis of tolerance to other religions? For years, to the general Muslims, they have been most tolerant with the other religions; Muslims don’t interfere in the religions of others. Are moderates considered like Zaid Ibrahim; his balls are locked up for his insolence. Maybe PM - I think by now PM would know better how far his reforms and tolerances have been rejected. DSAI, those of Malaysian Malaysia must be kidding to take this chameleon as their “lord”. Azmin, Wan Azizah- they would be rejected if they do so!
Muslims go to the mosque for prayers every Friday, for special prayers during the fasting months and other special occasions. The Muslims follow and adhere to the prayers and advice of the specially appointed imans during these prayers. Muslims also listen to the special religious programs on TV where there is authorised representation I am sure no authoritative on Islam would dare speak on this special call by non-Muslims without being spite on. For one, most Muslims are aware of the dangers brought forward by western trained or propagated “Islamist’ scholars for their more liberal or tolerant views; these scholars are perceived as agents or bought out by the CIA or US administration who have caused a lot of havoc to the Muslim world including aggravating the disunity among the Muslims. To the Muslims, history has shown that the greatest danger to the Muslims comes from the hypocrites and they are well exemplified in the Quran. So these type of Muslims will be rejected by the others, the bulk whose voices are supposed to be muzzled.
To these Non-Muslims who think they have the authority to decide or deliberate on Islamic perceptions, my advice is to stop. The more these sensitive issues are pressed on, the more volatile and dangerous the situation becomes.
Please be aware, at the last Friday sermon at the mosque I attended to, the Iman called upon the congregation to be aware on the dangers lurking from such forums and other recent actions against the interest of Muslims. What would have happened if the Iman had called the congregation to demonstrate their anger against such insolence? Call the Police for help under the rights of our constitution? Nay, people like Ambiga, Mehrun and of cause LKS and Kapal Singh now want to push the fault back to the protesters although the warnings and signs have been very clear!! Bloody irresponsible cowards, aren’t they, hiding behind the United Nations’ Universal Declaration of Human Rights, just like RPK in creating his havoc?
So for those who wish that moderate Muslims come forth, please do not try to divide the Muslims, there could be serious backlash.
Monday, August 11, 2008
BAR COUNCIL AND THEIR KIND WILL NEVER LEARN: SLAP THEM WITH THE ISA
In relation to the Saturday Bar Council Forum which was “beheaded” from the onset.
GAMPANG, BIADAB, SETAN, BANGSAT ….. these are most befitting words for those members in the Bar Council who still insist that “the decision to hold Saturday's forum was right because it was timely and important to address a very problematic issue”.
TWISTED TOUNGUES, BASTARDS, IRRESPONSIBLE……for those who are “arguing that the protest was a reflection of a competition among three Malay-based parties — Pas, Umno and Parti Keadilan Rakyat”
As far as I To am concern, those Malay Muslim leaders from PAS, UMNO and PKR have full support from the bulk of the dominant silent majority. Thus, what’s the point of bring out such perception unless their twisted tongues are unable to accept the truth that their kind of forum and deliberations are never wanted in this country without paying a hefty price; social chaos.
Of Course, the likes of LKS and Malaysian Malaysia will definitely hissed out their despair as they cry seeing their desperate reinstituting Article 121(1A) withering. I have nothing to advice such people because they will never change, they are like that perpetually; our worlds are so far apart.
These people will never learn, will never accept the fact that what they are dwelling are very sensitive issues which disturbs peace of the majority, they insist that the minority rule prevails. Thus I see no other choice that should they still persists with their stubbornness and put to peril the peace and harmony of the country, they should be slapped with the ISA the soonest. The Bar Council should take the necessary recourse to change the President and hard headed human rights members. And of course, the defacto law minister Zaid Ibrahim should immediately tender his resignation.
Lawyer Malik Imtiaz Sarwar who said "For me, the 300 protesters who were outside protesting do not represent the majority Muslims or Islam."
I beg his pardon, has he not learnt yet from the rejection of his proposal for the Interfaith Commission which was “excreted” on by PM and the Muslim community. Who the fxxx does he think he is when even the pro-reform PM has comment his rejection while the populist defacto law minister’s tongue is completely tied up this time round.
To my Sisters in Islam, please understand the Brotherhood of Muslims, under the UMMAH. Perhaps get some revealing and valuable lessons from your fellow Muslims in London vis-à-vis the Islamic fraternity under Yusof Islam who have immense knowledge of such predicaments in UK and elsewhere. Do not be carried away by your worldly ideals and of a small minority interest at the expense of the greater majority. Equality has many dimensions and being human not all of us can see the light which is sacred to the All Omnipotent.
However, to my minority fellow Muslims who refuse to agree with the protest, I refer them to surah Al – Kafirun as a reminder.
Surah 109. The Disbelievers, Atheists (IslamiCity.com)
1. Say: O ye that reject Faith!
2. I worship not that which ye worship,
3. Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
4. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,
5. Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
6. To you be your Way, and to me mine.
Background of Surah
This surah was not revealed to preach religious tolerance as some people of today seem to think, but it was revealed in order to exonerate the Muslims from the disbelievers religion, their rites of worship, and their gods, and to express their total disgust and unconcern with them and to tell them that Islam and kufr (unbelief) had nothing in common and there was no possibility of their being combined and mixed into one entity.
Although it was addressed in the beginning to the disbelieving Quraish in response to their proposals of compromise, yet it is not confined to them only, but having made it a part of the Quran, Allah gave the Muslims the eternal teaching that they should exonerate themselves by word and deed from the creed of kufr wherever and in whatever form it be, and should declare without any reservation that they cannot make any compromise with the disbelievers in the matter of Faith. That is why this Surah continued to be recited when the people to whom it was addressed as a rejoinder, had died and been forgotten, and those Muslims also continued to recite it who were disbelievers at the time it was revealed, and the Muslims still recite it centuries after they have passed away, for expression of disgust with and dissociation from kufr and its rites is a perpetual demand of Faith.
GAMPANG, BIADAB, SETAN, BANGSAT ….. these are most befitting words for those members in the Bar Council who still insist that “the decision to hold Saturday's forum was right because it was timely and important to address a very problematic issue”.
TWISTED TOUNGUES, BASTARDS, IRRESPONSIBLE……for those who are “arguing that the protest was a reflection of a competition among three Malay-based parties — Pas, Umno and Parti Keadilan Rakyat”
As far as I To am concern, those Malay Muslim leaders from PAS, UMNO and PKR have full support from the bulk of the dominant silent majority. Thus, what’s the point of bring out such perception unless their twisted tongues are unable to accept the truth that their kind of forum and deliberations are never wanted in this country without paying a hefty price; social chaos.
Of Course, the likes of LKS and Malaysian Malaysia will definitely hissed out their despair as they cry seeing their desperate reinstituting Article 121(1A) withering. I have nothing to advice such people because they will never change, they are like that perpetually; our worlds are so far apart.
These people will never learn, will never accept the fact that what they are dwelling are very sensitive issues which disturbs peace of the majority, they insist that the minority rule prevails. Thus I see no other choice that should they still persists with their stubbornness and put to peril the peace and harmony of the country, they should be slapped with the ISA the soonest. The Bar Council should take the necessary recourse to change the President and hard headed human rights members. And of course, the defacto law minister Zaid Ibrahim should immediately tender his resignation.
Lawyer Malik Imtiaz Sarwar who said "For me, the 300 protesters who were outside protesting do not represent the majority Muslims or Islam."
I beg his pardon, has he not learnt yet from the rejection of his proposal for the Interfaith Commission which was “excreted” on by PM and the Muslim community. Who the fxxx does he think he is when even the pro-reform PM has comment his rejection while the populist defacto law minister’s tongue is completely tied up this time round.
To my Sisters in Islam, please understand the Brotherhood of Muslims, under the UMMAH. Perhaps get some revealing and valuable lessons from your fellow Muslims in London vis-à-vis the Islamic fraternity under Yusof Islam who have immense knowledge of such predicaments in UK and elsewhere. Do not be carried away by your worldly ideals and of a small minority interest at the expense of the greater majority. Equality has many dimensions and being human not all of us can see the light which is sacred to the All Omnipotent.
However, to my minority fellow Muslims who refuse to agree with the protest, I refer them to surah Al – Kafirun as a reminder.
Surah 109. The Disbelievers, Atheists (IslamiCity.com)
1. Say: O ye that reject Faith!
2. I worship not that which ye worship,
3. Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
4. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,
5. Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
6. To you be your Way, and to me mine.
Background of Surah
This surah was not revealed to preach religious tolerance as some people of today seem to think, but it was revealed in order to exonerate the Muslims from the disbelievers religion, their rites of worship, and their gods, and to express their total disgust and unconcern with them and to tell them that Islam and kufr (unbelief) had nothing in common and there was no possibility of their being combined and mixed into one entity.
Although it was addressed in the beginning to the disbelieving Quraish in response to their proposals of compromise, yet it is not confined to them only, but having made it a part of the Quran, Allah gave the Muslims the eternal teaching that they should exonerate themselves by word and deed from the creed of kufr wherever and in whatever form it be, and should declare without any reservation that they cannot make any compromise with the disbelievers in the matter of Faith. That is why this Surah continued to be recited when the people to whom it was addressed as a rejoinder, had died and been forgotten, and those Muslims also continued to recite it who were disbelievers at the time it was revealed, and the Muslims still recite it centuries after they have passed away, for expression of disgust with and dissociation from kufr and its rites is a perpetual demand of Faith.
Sunday, August 10, 2008
BAR COUNCIL: SO IRRESPONSIBLE - “YOU ASK FOR IT”
Why should the Bar Council wish to organise a forum on a topic considered as extremely sensitive and vocally rejected by the dominant majority race and religion? Perplexing isn’t it, is it to demonstrate a freedom of speech, the care for some who have been adversely affected or to promote greater religious tolerance and understanding?
Potential Dire Consequences.
It was fortunate that the organisers of the forum “Conversion to Islam Article 121 (1A) of the Federal Constitution, Subashini & Shamala Revisited” listened to the Police and forcefully with speed put a stop to the forum before anything unwarranted happened, fearing of coarse a swelling crowd of protesters getting out of control. I would believe if it was not stopped, the building insurers would have suffered, the HKL would be full of out patients, perhaps even the fire brigade would have a field day and wild rumours spreading like fire grinding the nation’s traffic to a halt and citizens staying behind close doors after emptying the supermarkets. A reminisce of May 13 1969!!!
Earlier Warnings
Prior to the forum, a number of top Malay politicians from UMNO and PAS and subsequently from PKR and numerous Malay Muslim NGO’s called for the forum to be abandoned due to its extreme sensitiveness as well as inappropriate for discussion in the open by personalities not officially representative nor authorised experts on the subject matter. Yet the Bar Council played as though they are so smart, not caring of what come may. The Bar Council sounded like an association of responsible citizens but lain cakap lain bikin – the Bar Council and its President were utterly irresponsible, most egoistic, arrogant and degrading of the legal profession of the country.
The Bar Council had earlier organised a forum on social contract which the Malay population rejected. The on going case of the word Allah by the Catholic Church is being monitored with grave concern by the Muslim community. The patience of the Malays and Muslims are being tested to the limits on issues so close to them. Everyone knows how sensitive issues relating to Islam is and yet in the west with their acute liberal and democratic beliefs, these Europeans care not about the belittling the Prophet antagonising Muslims world wide. The said topic of the forum, although not belittling the Prophet or Islam, is enough to anger the local Muslims. Malays could be an unpredictable race when they feel insulted above the limits and we can wonder why the word “amok” in the English language originated from the Malay language.
My earlier postings drew concern about a number of issues affecting Malay special rights and Islam which are being challenged directly and indirectly by the non Malay and non Muslim communities post GE 12 and the promise of certain reforms and tolerances promoted by PM and his corrupt defacto law minister, Zaid Ibrahim. Restitution to the original version of Article 121 (1A) was supposed to table in Parliament at its last session but fortunately there were stiff resistance and Zaid Ibrahim had to walk with the tail between his legs. There are other issues concerning the Islamic religion such as conversions and burial rights which are also igniting the frustrations of the Muslims, the serenity of the Malay Muslims are already being undermined.
Death of Resituating Article 121 (1A)
With this solid unity expressed by top politicians, political parties and NGO representing the Malay Muslim community, this proposed restitution of Article 121 to its original form looks to be perpetually deferred. I wish now to convey my preliminary condolences to LKS and Kapal Singh and of course the Malaysian Malaysia and the human rights groups for their long prized dream being shattered. Similarly, my expression of condolences to the mislead PM and Zaid Ibrahim as well as and the other black sheep among the Malays and Muslims.
Advice to Black Sheep
There are some Muslims (whom I call the black sheep) who have foolish perceptions such as “They (the protestors) make assumptions. For those of us who are mature and educated, we can think for ourselves. But not everyone who came today are educated. So they become very emotional because of this sensitive issue."
Such view was expressed by loner Mohd Nazari Ahmad – I have only this little advice to Nazari; what he said speaks of his stature and for such type of “mature and educated” Muslims – go to the proper Islamic religious councils for advice and apprecoate the word “submission”, seek and improve his Islamic knowledge by various means, insh’allah Allah will give them guidance. Nazari should realise that his perception seemed awkward when local Muslim leaders, more matured, experienced and from various ideological differences from within his beloved country are united in this stand; an common expression of the anger of the UMMAH. If Nazari is so confident of his perception, this much is the word from Allah “What he thinks he knows is just a little drop of the mighty ocean!”
The Bar Council and their likes would also say others are mere politicking as they put the blame elsewhere; I would give a damned about narrow perceptions, I am more concern of the peace and stability of this country. Such forum only allows opportunists to create havoc and the opportunist do not come from the organisers but unexplained intrusions, so again the Bar Council members are considered very irresponsible for creating such a potentially explosive situation.
PM and the Scumbags
Bar Council Press Statement issued prior to the Forum
“Although the Bar Council is heartened by the PM's recently-reported statements calling for more interfaith dialogues to be held in order to promote and ensure religious harmony among Malaysians of diverse beliefs and we welcome his assurance that there is space for such dialogues……..”
These statements that claim the forum will create misunderstanding, anger and tension, are in stark contrast with the PM's assurances”
In her opening speech, Bar Council president Datuk Ambiga Sreenevasan invited the protesters to join the forum and share their dissenting views.
"I'm aware this forum has drawn many criticisms from many quarters. I don't have a problem with criticism... there are demonstrators outside, you can hear them," she said.
"We have absolutely no quarrel with them. They are exercising their freedom of speech. We hope they'll be allowed to carry out their demonstration peacefully. We're certainly not lodging any police report."
What would make the Bar Council headed by its President changed their view. Nothing, I presume, except if Molotov cocktails were thrown at them! Arrogance, deceitful and selfish bastards these scumbags are! How could members of the Bar Council appoint such irresponsible brats in their Executive Committee? It’s a sham, a real big disaster for the legal profession.
And we must not forget the role of PM and Zaid Ibrahim that make such “educated” personalities including prominent political non Muslims overjoyed with their liberal and tolerant proposals. Sickest scumbags – that’s my perception of the weakling PM and the scrupulous SIL and Zaid Ibrahim in their pursuit of agenda of populist and liberal reforms while they forget their roots. The advocating of liberal reforms is the root cause of the problem; those who thinks Malaysians are a mature lot on such issues are kidding themselves. There are some who says that the situation is not the same 10 years ago; that opinion or perception is pure BULLSHIT.
Forewarnings
The Muslim protestors have already given ample warnings that such forums should not be organised in the open otherwise there could be end of times. I fully support such warnings as well as the call to revamp the Bar Council Executive Council; remove all those scumbags especially Datuk Ambiga and those responsible in holding such forums. I trust the Bar Council members should know their responsibilities and take the appropriate actions.
So Datuk Ambiga, you are indeed irresponsible and you almost had blood in your hands. Best for you to quit the presidency and leave the country if you are not happy; don’t make the majority miserable even if they don’t belong to the same race and religion as you. We have had enough of you and your irresponsible kind and You Asked For It; GET LOST.
Potential Dire Consequences.
It was fortunate that the organisers of the forum “Conversion to Islam Article 121 (1A) of the Federal Constitution, Subashini & Shamala Revisited” listened to the Police and forcefully with speed put a stop to the forum before anything unwarranted happened, fearing of coarse a swelling crowd of protesters getting out of control. I would believe if it was not stopped, the building insurers would have suffered, the HKL would be full of out patients, perhaps even the fire brigade would have a field day and wild rumours spreading like fire grinding the nation’s traffic to a halt and citizens staying behind close doors after emptying the supermarkets. A reminisce of May 13 1969!!!
Earlier Warnings
Prior to the forum, a number of top Malay politicians from UMNO and PAS and subsequently from PKR and numerous Malay Muslim NGO’s called for the forum to be abandoned due to its extreme sensitiveness as well as inappropriate for discussion in the open by personalities not officially representative nor authorised experts on the subject matter. Yet the Bar Council played as though they are so smart, not caring of what come may. The Bar Council sounded like an association of responsible citizens but lain cakap lain bikin – the Bar Council and its President were utterly irresponsible, most egoistic, arrogant and degrading of the legal profession of the country.
The Bar Council had earlier organised a forum on social contract which the Malay population rejected. The on going case of the word Allah by the Catholic Church is being monitored with grave concern by the Muslim community. The patience of the Malays and Muslims are being tested to the limits on issues so close to them. Everyone knows how sensitive issues relating to Islam is and yet in the west with their acute liberal and democratic beliefs, these Europeans care not about the belittling the Prophet antagonising Muslims world wide. The said topic of the forum, although not belittling the Prophet or Islam, is enough to anger the local Muslims. Malays could be an unpredictable race when they feel insulted above the limits and we can wonder why the word “amok” in the English language originated from the Malay language.
My earlier postings drew concern about a number of issues affecting Malay special rights and Islam which are being challenged directly and indirectly by the non Malay and non Muslim communities post GE 12 and the promise of certain reforms and tolerances promoted by PM and his corrupt defacto law minister, Zaid Ibrahim. Restitution to the original version of Article 121 (1A) was supposed to table in Parliament at its last session but fortunately there were stiff resistance and Zaid Ibrahim had to walk with the tail between his legs. There are other issues concerning the Islamic religion such as conversions and burial rights which are also igniting the frustrations of the Muslims, the serenity of the Malay Muslims are already being undermined.
Death of Resituating Article 121 (1A)
With this solid unity expressed by top politicians, political parties and NGO representing the Malay Muslim community, this proposed restitution of Article 121 to its original form looks to be perpetually deferred. I wish now to convey my preliminary condolences to LKS and Kapal Singh and of course the Malaysian Malaysia and the human rights groups for their long prized dream being shattered. Similarly, my expression of condolences to the mislead PM and Zaid Ibrahim as well as and the other black sheep among the Malays and Muslims.
Advice to Black Sheep
There are some Muslims (whom I call the black sheep) who have foolish perceptions such as “They (the protestors) make assumptions. For those of us who are mature and educated, we can think for ourselves. But not everyone who came today are educated. So they become very emotional because of this sensitive issue."
Such view was expressed by loner Mohd Nazari Ahmad – I have only this little advice to Nazari; what he said speaks of his stature and for such type of “mature and educated” Muslims – go to the proper Islamic religious councils for advice and apprecoate the word “submission”, seek and improve his Islamic knowledge by various means, insh’allah Allah will give them guidance. Nazari should realise that his perception seemed awkward when local Muslim leaders, more matured, experienced and from various ideological differences from within his beloved country are united in this stand; an common expression of the anger of the UMMAH. If Nazari is so confident of his perception, this much is the word from Allah “What he thinks he knows is just a little drop of the mighty ocean!”
The Bar Council and their likes would also say others are mere politicking as they put the blame elsewhere; I would give a damned about narrow perceptions, I am more concern of the peace and stability of this country. Such forum only allows opportunists to create havoc and the opportunist do not come from the organisers but unexplained intrusions, so again the Bar Council members are considered very irresponsible for creating such a potentially explosive situation.
PM and the Scumbags
Bar Council Press Statement issued prior to the Forum
“Although the Bar Council is heartened by the PM's recently-reported statements calling for more interfaith dialogues to be held in order to promote and ensure religious harmony among Malaysians of diverse beliefs and we welcome his assurance that there is space for such dialogues……..”
These statements that claim the forum will create misunderstanding, anger and tension, are in stark contrast with the PM's assurances”
In her opening speech, Bar Council president Datuk Ambiga Sreenevasan invited the protesters to join the forum and share their dissenting views.
"I'm aware this forum has drawn many criticisms from many quarters. I don't have a problem with criticism... there are demonstrators outside, you can hear them," she said.
"We have absolutely no quarrel with them. They are exercising their freedom of speech. We hope they'll be allowed to carry out their demonstration peacefully. We're certainly not lodging any police report."
What would make the Bar Council headed by its President changed their view. Nothing, I presume, except if Molotov cocktails were thrown at them! Arrogance, deceitful and selfish bastards these scumbags are! How could members of the Bar Council appoint such irresponsible brats in their Executive Committee? It’s a sham, a real big disaster for the legal profession.
And we must not forget the role of PM and Zaid Ibrahim that make such “educated” personalities including prominent political non Muslims overjoyed with their liberal and tolerant proposals. Sickest scumbags – that’s my perception of the weakling PM and the scrupulous SIL and Zaid Ibrahim in their pursuit of agenda of populist and liberal reforms while they forget their roots. The advocating of liberal reforms is the root cause of the problem; those who thinks Malaysians are a mature lot on such issues are kidding themselves. There are some who says that the situation is not the same 10 years ago; that opinion or perception is pure BULLSHIT.
Forewarnings
The Muslim protestors have already given ample warnings that such forums should not be organised in the open otherwise there could be end of times. I fully support such warnings as well as the call to revamp the Bar Council Executive Council; remove all those scumbags especially Datuk Ambiga and those responsible in holding such forums. I trust the Bar Council members should know their responsibilities and take the appropriate actions.
So Datuk Ambiga, you are indeed irresponsible and you almost had blood in your hands. Best for you to quit the presidency and leave the country if you are not happy; don’t make the majority miserable even if they don’t belong to the same race and religion as you. We have had enough of you and your irresponsible kind and You Asked For It; GET LOST.
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